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My name Jack Heligman. My father Nathan ( Nachman ) Heligman born May, 1897 in Gomel. My grandfather Louis ( Yehudah Leib ) Heligman born about 1860. My grandmother Mary ( Michlea ) Lubin maiden name born about 1860. Louis and Mary had 12 children including Nathan. They emigrated to the United States in July, 1912 with 4 of their children. They sailed aboard the SS Prince Aldebert from Hamburg, Germany and arrived in Philadelphia, PA. I would like any information available about my family before they left Russia. Could this be in a Minsk Archive?

Меня зовут Джек Гейликман.
Мой отец Натан-Нахман Хелигман родился в Гомеле в мае 1897
Дедушка Егуда-Лейб Гейликман род.~1860
Бабушка Михля Лубина родилась ~1860
У Егуды-Лейба и Михли было 12 детей, включая Натана
Они эмигрировали в США в июле 1912 с 4 детьми.
Где можно найти информацию об их жизни в России?
Что может быть в Минском архиве?

Hi, Jack,
your question is in right place now.

Thank you. Please let me know if you need more information.

Hi Jack,
can You help to find the original family name in Russian? Maybe you have the documents in Russian? in Hebrew, in German or the family names with another transcription in English?
I cannot find Heligman in Russian sourses.

В Гомеле встречается фамилия Geylekman.Cайт Яд Вашем.

There were surname Geylekman in Gomel. Site Yad Vashem.

на http://www.jewishgen.org/ есть люди которые также ищут Heligman.
советую с ними связаться.

The only other spelling of the Heligman name I have seen was on a passenger list from Hamburg, Germany. It was
Heiligmann which makes sense on a German ship. I have noticed also the city of Gomel and Homel are both used. If G and H are interchangeable, maybe the spelling Geylekman is a possibility. I have the Hebrew name of most of Nathan
( Nachman ) 's many siblings. I also have the birth years for them. Would this be helpful?

In some old records I have, I saw my grandfather, Louis Heligman was born in Borchov, Russia. I see there is Borisov ( Barysaw today ). I also heard the name Heligman may have originated in Borisov. Maybe the Borchov I have and Borisov are the same. Can you please check this? Thank you.

Hello Mr. Heligman,
Borisov (Barysaw/Барысаў in Belarussian language) is very likely the correct place of your grandfather' s birth. Borchov sounds as misspelling / missunderstanding while recording. It would be easier to help you if you posted all records you have. Knowing of names and dates of birth of all relatives would be helpful as well.
Best of luck in your search.

Здравствуйте, мистер Heligman,
Борисов (Барысаў на белорусском языке) весьма вероятно правильное место рождения вашего деда. Borchov звучит как опечатка / недопонимание, возможно при записи. Было бы проще помочь вам, если бы вы разместили все имеющиеся у Вас документы. Знать имена и даты рождения всех родственников было также полезно.
Удачи в поисках.

Had it been Borisov, the place in shipping records would have been associated with Minsk, rather that Gomel. There are several places named Borkhov (Борхов) in Gomel's environs, but the problem is that I can't find a Jewish community living in there.

The original documents - Pennsylvania passenger and crew lists - have some additional information about the Heiligman family. The place of their last residence is recorded as Bobrysk, where Leib had his sister Feiga Garanovicz living. The second page of the ship manifest has their place of birth as something like Postecker (-kin).
They also has a son Alex... Heiligmann who came to the USA earlier. It is worth finding his shipping records and to check his place of origin.

The family was going to Abram Heiligmann, son of Leib, resided in St. Louis, Mo.
Abe Heligman born Oct 5, 1884, immigrated in 1906, married in 1907.
https://familysearch.org/search/record/ ... 2C%20Mo%22~

Town of origin is unclear. Could it be Борхаў (in Belarusian language)? http://be.rfwiki.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE% ... 0%B0%D1%9E
Was Babruysk (Бобруйск in Russian) their last residency? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babruysk
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/m ... al-map.htm

Название Борхов имеют населенные пункты Беларусь Гомельской области
Борхов - деревня в Рогачевском районе
Борхов - деревня в Азершчынским сельсовете Речицкого района
Борхов - деревня в Борщовская сельсовете Речицкого района

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As per Google, no such word as Pasteska or Prasteska.

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https://familysearch.org/search/record/ ... e%3ARussia~
Hopefilly this will help.

albeider писал(а): Два варианта: или Гейликман (Слуцк, Полоцк, Гомель),или Геликман (Слуцк, Борисов)

Тогда я в Оглавление добавлю по Бейдеру: ГЕЙЛИКМАН / ГЕЛИКМАН.

I shall add the surname in our Index by Beider: ГЕЙЛИКМАН / ГЕЛИКМАН. Agree?

Лейба Гейликман - член коммерческого клуба в Гомеле.Памятная книга Могилевской губернии 1914 г.стр.144-145.

Leib Heilikman is a member of Commerce Club in Gomel. A Memory book (Agendum) of Mogilev gubernia, 1914 y., p. 144-145.

Я полагаю, что этот населенный пункт - это не Борхов и не Бобруйск, а Бобрич Мозырского уезда.

I suspect that this locality is neither Borchov nor Bobruisk but Bobritch of Mozyr County.

The Philadelphia, PA. 1912 passenger list Is familiar to me. The son referred to on the second page is Abraham ( not Alex ). I have a 1920 census for Abraham Heligman showing 3828 Page avenue was correct. Louis And Mary
( Lubin ) Heligman had 12 children. They were Joseph ( 1881 - 1951 ), Abraham ( 1884 - 1957), Rose ( 1885 - 1964 ), Benjamin ( 1886 - 1972 ), Morris ( 1888 - 1950 ), Max ( 1891 - 1974 ), Ida ( 1893 - 1953 ), Nettie ( 1894 - 1977 ), Meyer ( 1895 - 1968 ), Nathan ( 1897 - 1982 ), Albert ( 1899 - 1978 ) and Michael ( 1902 - 1983 ). Joseph through Max arrived in the US in 1906. Ida and Meyer arrived in 1910. Louis, Mary and the remaining children arrived in 1912. From my records all children were born in Gomel. Anything you can find, or guide me to find, about Louis in Borisov would be greatly appreciate. Thank you.

Is Heiligmann the original spelling of the surname of Heligman? Is there any reference to it in Borisov? If not, where did you find this surname.? Is there any information about my grandfather ( Louis )'s father or mother anywhere. On Louis's headstone in St. Louis, MO, his father is Yitzchak Leib ( Isadore ). Sorry I mislead you about where I saw Abraham's address. I now remember, it was in his WW1 Draft Registration, not the 1920 Census. I can't thank you enough for all the searching you have done. I appreciate it so much.