GERMAN (Rostov-na-Donu) / ГЕРМАН (Ростов-на-Дону)

[Jana2019]

I am looking for German family name. They came probably from Rostov in Russia to Brussel. No clue how to track them.
Ищу семью Герман, прибывшую в Брюссель из, видимо, Ростова (Россия).

[anno_nin]

Ищу семью Герман, прибывшую в Брюссель из, видимо, Ростова (Россия).

Jana2019, расскажите пожалуйста подробнее, кто из Ваших предков жил в России, в какие годы? Все три приведенные Вами фамилии встречаются как у евреев, так и у не евреев. Большое значение также имеют годы, когда они жили в России.
Ознакомьтесь пожалуйста с правилами. viewtopic.php?f=101&t=1942
Это поможет избежать лишних вопросов.

[Jana2019]

Gessel Moiseevich German iz Rostova-na-Donu. U nego bilo 4 sestri: Rozalia (1880), Evgenia, Sara i Olga. Wse godi rozdenya ne znau i ih evreyskie imenna ne znau, no dochka Gesselya (Revekkah) rodilas w 1903. Esho bili dochki Liza, Sara Geronimus plus esho ?. mne nedavno kto to peredal fotki Gesselya i esho 2 zenshini (Olga i Beatrice napisanno) iz goda 1926 iz Brusselya w Belgii. Olga slishkom molodaya wiglyadit shto bi bit sestroi Gesselya. Wse rodnya. Wot ishu Gesselya. Ishu kak chast rodstwennikov popali w Brussel. Za kogo za muz wishli i tak dalee. Nashla na saite Rostova w 1914 godu Moisey Movshovich German listing na Pushkinskoy ulitse. W sinagogski archivah netu ih w Rostove. Est drugie Germani.
Гесель Моисеевич Герман из Ростова-на-Дону. У него было 4 сестры: Розалия (1880), Евгения, Сара и Ольга.
Дочери Геселя: Ревека (1903), Лиза, Сара Геронимус, ?.
У меня есть фото Геселя с 2 женщинами. Подпись - Ольга и Беатрис 1926г. Брюссель, Бельгия
Ольга выглядит слишком молодо, чтобы быть сестрой Геселя.
Хочу понять, как родственники попали в Брюссель. За кого вышли замуж и т.д.
На сайте Ростова нашла Моисей Мовшович Герман жил на ул.Пушкинской. В архиве синагоги их нет. Есть другие Германы.

[anno_nin]

Gessel Moiseevich German iz Rostova-na-Donu.

Hello,
You write in Translit. Please, write in your language.
Which town Gesel Moiseevich lived? Rostov or Rostov-on-Don? These are different towns.
Can You send a link to the information found?
About Brussele emigrants: Натурализация российских евреев в Бельгии

[Jana2019]

I am so sorry guys for not figuring out translit but I see you speak English. So maybe I can just write in English?

My great grandmother is Revekka Gesselevna German (27/2/1903-23/2/1975). So I was hoping to find details of her parents, whom all lived in Rostov-on-Don. There were a lot of women in that family. My grandma is still alive and remembers most first names but not last names. What I know or found on internet:
- 1913 listing Moisey Movshovich German http://www.donvrem.dspl.ru/archPersonal ... =25&id=266 here he is registered on exactly same adress as Korenblum Z.A. family year in 1914 (same site) later with a factory called Soyuz for mineral water. These families intermarried - the Kornblum line downwards I have figured out and found decendants
- Olga Moiseevna German from Nahichevani-na-Donu http://www.donvrem.dspl.ru/archPersonal ... =34&id=740 I believe that could be the sister of Gessel. She was married twice, owned some property (unfortunately the indication in this site is unclear to me the address "4 линия 45") and was buried alive by the Germans. My grandma remembers that, I did not found confirmation, just stories that ground was moving for days. She has no descendants.
- Rozalia Moiseevna Kornblum (born German, 2/9/1880) also sister of Gessel as my grandma remember aunt Roza. Found her grave on https://toldot.ru/life/cemetery/graves_50858.html and her living descendants.
- Evgenia Geronimus (born German I believe as per stories grandma). I could not find any of her details, but her son Alexander Efimovich Geronimus (1915-1980) was a famous pianist from Rostov-on-Don (as grandma remembers), he studied in Berlin and after the was lived in Leningrad working in conservatorium. There are various things on internet on him including a picture with Wladislav Szpilman. I can not find decendants of him. All I know he had (at least) a daughter. No clue how to find her.
http://malrod.ru/%D0%98%D1%81%D1%82%D0% ... 0(2003)/14
http://mirpeterburga.ru/upload/iblock/4 ... 672d84.pdf

So when I found the Kornblum descedants they had pictures in an envelope in a drawer, of Gessel (written "this is brother of") and 2 ladies Olga and Beatrice sending their love from Brussel in 21/june/1926. No clue how they got there or got back - as at least Gessel did. One of them looks like my Revekka - but 1926 is the year my grandma was born, so its unlikely its her. Could be one of her 3 sisters (but my grandma remembers 2 names Sara, Liza not 3rd one) or cousins. My grandma does not remember anything on anyone is Brussel. If Gessel has been in Brussel he came back, he was a women's tailor and he died after the war somewhere in Armenia.
Part of the family fled to a.o. Uzbekistan, Armenia and Baku during the WWII. Apparently they had family in Baku, potentially Gessel's wife's family. I have one photo of a couple (Faina and a russian pilot). No clue of the name.
Someone on my heritage contacted me with name Fuchs from Baku link but I am unable to connect the dots.

Sara German, Revekka's sister is the only one who had offspring, as other 2 died as maids (Liza and ?). No clue her married name but first name of husband was Leonid and their daughter was Natalia. She is younger than my grandma (so born after 1926) and lived in Novorcherkask.
Revekka also had a brother who died young according to grandma, she 93 so the term is wide . He was limping.

Gessel's wife we dont know, no name... all we know is that she died in 1943 in Rostov-on-Don in an accident.
On https://www.holocaust.su/married-register website there is a Gessel German listing for marriage, but different patronimic name (Adrielev) so not sure this is him.

I checked out the link you sent - THANKS! - http://www.genami.org/en/belgian-file/b ... file-g.php. There is a Gerreman listed. Maybe its a way of writing German - dont know - there is no way to open up a file.

So I hit a brick wall - no clue how to search up from Gessel, how to find details of his wife, descendants of Sara, or the pianist Geronimus, and who these people are in Brussel and how they got there and whether anyone alive left.
Any help or clues would be appreciated.

[genealo]

В индексах на https://www.holocaust.su/ очень много ошибок и они по-моему неполные. Надо проверять различные варианты искажений.
На сайте Донской библиотеки списки евреев смотрели? Там есть Германы, например этот:

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[genealo]

Ещё Германы:

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[Jana2019]

Yes thanks, also for your quick reply! I did see the number 47 and 11. It would make sense to "claim" this Gessel (for his name and profession). However the aunts mentioned by my grandma all bear the patronymic name Moiseevna. And then there is the address link on Puskinskaya 235 street between Kornblums and Moisey Movshovich German listing in 1913. So though these guys from Taganrog might be related somehow - nr 47 has also Moiseev as patronimic name, I am not 100% sure.
I understand that a lot of metric books are missing in Rostov-on-Don, so maybe I will never find the links I am looking for, unless you have another idea.